even WORSE - they're NOT. They're intended behavior. Journald exists to solve a problem that no one had. Log files worked fine.
Core dumps went to the right place on disk. Once you learned where that was, it was fine. it was the current working directory of the process in question, which could be frustrating - but it worked alright. Maybe you could fix that and put them somewhere meaningful to the caller, but...Journald puts them in a database?
@a1batross @zudlig Nah - your experience was probably about normal. The thing Systemd gets right is "user" experience (or system administrator experience or something). I think that it could be imparted onto other tools though. I don't think we need to completely eschew backwards compatibility to get those benefits though.
But what do I have to complain about? I can't put up, so I'll shut up. :P
@a1batross I think there's a middle ground to find. I don't hate systemd, but I hate the idealogy behind some of it. The squashing of competition and lack of open standards is something I simply cannot stand behind.
I wrote (well, forked and drastically rewrote) an init system. It was super simplistic and didn't support a lot (read: 90%) of what Systemd did, but I could see how to do many of them in ways that utilized traditional tooling and ideals.
Rethinking the "unix philosophy" is absolutely necessary, but systemd throws the baby out with the bathwater in many ways.
@a1batross It's not that anything is worse. I'm just pushing a lot more pixels with similar quality hardware these days!
You're probably better of for not remembering either (if your age in your bio is correct, you'd have been about 5 when I was playing with those :P). They weren't particularly great (or particularly terrible). Just some of the earlier "user-friendly" distros.
Linux overall is probably better, but if anything - you can accuse me of being crufty and stubborn. I really enjoyed the "do one thing and do it well" mentality. The question of "simplicity" is an interesting one (and I could go on and on about it), but suffice to say that I'm not sure that either "simple-for-experts" or "simple-for-users" is completely in the right.
Stuff like Pulse and Systemd are really the antithesis of that early simplicity. Their quest to be the one-and-only eats up competition and makes their internals much more complex by not concerning themselves with interoperability.
But all that being said: I'm typing this on macOS and am using a Systemd/PulseAudio enabled linux distro on my laptop. So I can't complain TOO much!
@a1batross I I was still in highschool and had just distrohopped from either Xandros or Yoper (neither of which exist anymore). It was a wild time for distros and ubuntu was such a breath of fresh air in some ways. I dislike what they have now, but damn was it awesome back then.
I had compiz running standalone in like...2007-2008 and I'm not sure I could get it working now with the Intel GPU and the ultrawide monitor setup / hidpi internal monitor I have now!
@joerebelloharley I am enjoying it, but it's far from "simple". It would really benefit from a simpler introduction to the package management and language (used for creating packages and managing your install declaratively).
@joerebelloharley How are you enjoying it? I just switched to Ungoogled-Chromium (mostly because no google and NixOS has it packaged so it was little/no effort)
It would make my life slightly more pleasant if the cryptocurrency kids would please stop telling everyone they're going to rescue society by removing the need for trust.
A society that isn't based on trust is not worth living in. Replacing trust with electricity consumption is always going to be a recipe for idiocy.
@joerebelloharley both Rust and C++ are rather complex languages. Templates and RAII in C++ and the borrow checker and heap vs stack allocations (Arc, Rc, and Box and when to use them) in Rust are honestly not TERRIBLY far apart.
Honestly, the things I like in Rust I like more in Ocaml...
@mhd Your experience isn't isolated, I'm afraid. The "organic movement" is similar in the US unfortunately
DnD/TTRPG Query Pt 2
So far I'm considering Discord and a generic forum (FluxBB/phpBB). Neither feels good. Discord just leaves an icky taste in my mouth: Centralized, not self-hosted, not encrypted. But everyone pretty much has an account, it supports voice calls (so we can stop using zoom at least), it has rooms and basic replies.
Forums are the opposite largely. I love the idea of hosting my own, they'd be relatively secure and "secret" even if not fully encrypted. They lack any other functionality and people would need another login (and I'd need to configure email on my server to handle notifications, which is a HUGE downer on adoption for me personally)
Mastodon - I'm looking for some help. I am part of a large Westmarches-style DnD campaign. Part of the problem is that our PCs don't feel very connected to one another (there's ~16 of us) and we're having trouble doing that. Given the large number of players and restrictions on player and DM availability, it's difficult to interact meaningfully in the sessions (the party changes every week and we're limited on time during sessions). Do you have this problem? How do you/can we solve it?
Just a dad who likes technology and loud music. Tries to have things worth saying about things. Probably fails.
masto instance for the tildeverse