When people use the term snowflake unironically, just remember they're quoting Fight Club, a satire written by a gay man about how male fragility causes men to destroy themselves, resent society and become radicalized. and that Tyler Durden isnt the hero but a personification of the main character's deep insecurities, and that his snowflake speech is a dig at how fascists use dehumanizing language to breed loyalty from insecure people.
@jacethechicken that's why he has such a problem with her seeing him at the support groups: it interferes with how he goes there to see himself.
this narcissism plays easily into fascism as well, because its ability to construct a compelling manichaean narrative, and its encouragement for adherents and would-be adherents to do so within its precepts, makes it perhaps uniquely useful among ideological genera to fulfill the narcissist's need for story as a means of contextualizing the self.
@jacethechicken not that we don't all use stories to contextualize ourselves, of course, but for a narcissist the story one constructs for oneself doesn't suffice; they require others to see them as they see themselves, even - especially - when their words and actions tell a very different story of them. "who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes?"
this is why narcissists are such toxic and dangerous people - why they make such good abusers, and such good fascists too.
violence, fascism, narcissism
@jacethechicken after all, violence is an effective tool for forcing the people around one to at least convincingly pretend they see one as one demands to be seen. but the individual abuser can only do so much, whereas fascism, as an ideological genus which enshrines redemptive violence as a tool for forcing its story on *everyone*, offers much broader scope, and that has an appeal of its own for those who seek to do so already.
@solder_on @jacethechicken that said, we'd argue very strongly against the idea that "a fragment of the MC's self" equals "not real". or, at least, if that's true then no one's "self" is "real", except inasmuch as they affect the reality we all to some greater or lesser extent share. that, we can get behind, but the idea that there exists some platonically indivisible "real self" of which some aspects exist and others are mere delusion, needs many questions answered to become at all plausible
plurality, uncomfortable thoughts
this resonates for us in a personal way, tbh. we created one another out of the person who was here before, because he was in a place where no one did love him, or would, and if we didn't do something about that we were going to die. we invented ourselves to help each other make ourself whole, and we did and do just that
the protag of the movie, though...
plurality, uncomfortable thoughts
@solder_on @jacethechicken it feels like he did similar, but just to reify his story, and even crushed that of himself that saw himself truly into a cipher that'd first validate his obsessions and then motivate his redemption arc
it's a frankly hideous act of self-directed violence, and the simultaneous keen introspection and total lack of insight or empathy that would require may be the most frightening thing in a film that's implicitly quite horrifying already
@solder_on @jacethechicken ...which also checks out for a narcissist, really. manipulation requires understanding how people work well enough to know what levers to pull, but if a person like that ever really sees what they've made of themself without having a story - a lie - to filter it through, they won't be able to exist as what they are any longer, and will have to change in some way - won't be able to *not*.
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