my continued use of linux at school is in danger. please provide links about linux at school, and using it ovet windows, and please give arguments on why i should use linux.boots much appreciated :)
@fosslinux If it helps I've heard a story of someone sneaking Libre Office into school and teachers not noticing the difference.
@bob what country are you in
@bob ok, i'm in aus.
@bob yeah right. I did think of that, primarily for MS Office (OneNote in particular) and Dropbox. I set up a slick setup with a Windows VM in VirtualBox that works really well.
@bob @fosslinux I once gave a lecture in a Dutch Art School, on a Linux machine, where I just wanted to connect to the internet, for my presentation. I open my browser and saw: 'Your system is hostile'.
(Luckily I had all my links backed up locally).
---> what kind of school are you in, specialized? General education? who needs to be convinced?
@fosslinux Are there any legitimate arguments (other than microsoft office compatibility) against it? I understand you're in high-school? Are you taking some CS classes? Then you could bring up the amount of command line utilities Linux offers that you need for that, and that Windows or macOS just don't live up to those requirements. Is there maybe a teacher at your shoool who likes foss and could advocate for you? You could also mention that it helps prepare you for your career.
@fosslinux what is the threat? What do they want to accomplish? What do _you_ want to accomplish (other than the obvious "I want to keep doing what I"m doing" thing).
@fosslinux Schools shouldn't have to rely on commercial products for specific companies to operate, it's that simple.
Learning Microsoft Word is like requiring all students to ware Adidas during PE.
@fosslinux OK. How about a very large experiment ongoing for many years now?
Brazil has 35 million students in over 50,000 schools using 523,400 computer stations all running Linux.
I wrote the original article, so I knew about it ;-) https://www.userful.com/images/downloads/case-studies/userful-casestudy-brazil-2014.pdf No relationship to the company and I don't know where my article is now. Deleted or moved.
@fosslinux Hi down there! I'm up in Terrace :-) A quick 1,400 km drive north of you.
perhaps @sakaal has some suggestions? While his daughter's (Finnish) school still uses Windows, they at least seem supportive of FOSS and provide software that runs cross-platform: https://plus.google.com/+SakariMaaranen/posts/iDXtUFzHod1
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@fosslinux Your predicament at school really winds me up man! grrr!
What is their actual fucking problem? No viruses is not a problem.
Why teach only specific capitalist programs vs generic wordpros, spreadsheets, email, bitmap, vector, sound and video. Just training ppl to be 'consumers' vs being actual citizens. Makes my blood boil
And, tell me, what does microsoft, goog, twitter and fb use themselves?
Pisses me off. I just want to slap your instructors/teachers/prof honestly
Maybe somthing in the direction of windows being exclusionary, too expensive (which they shouldn't be able to force on to you), not privacy-respecting etc... Are Apple-Macintosh-Computers allowed at your school? If so, you might even explain their similarity. Also, not being able to play games on linux is a plus this time
@fosslinux this is for if you're doing some rulebreaking but depending on how the computers are set up you can put an OS on a USB and do a live boot on it. I previously suggested Tails but idk I think that's max shady cause it's a 'leave no traces' kind of OS. This method works for major ones like Ubuntu and such.
As for compelling reasons to convince the school, I am trying to find some on the GNU website but it is buried in many articles arguing about the semantics of GNU/Linux vs Linux e_e
@fosslinux same with my son's school: Most teachers are thorouhly infected by the Windows virus and don't know how to deal with Linux or BSD, hence they won't allow for it. When I offered to provide some Linux basics at class offer was declined. That's the way school ensures students know where to buy their crapware.
@fosslinux what's your position? Are you a student/teacher/sysadmin? What is the concrete thing they want you to do? (Submit homework as .docx?)
@fosslinux In my school, using anything other than Windows (They have a license for each student, although we don't have admin privs) is against the ToS. Doesn't stop anyone from breaking the sandbox though - some leak the admin password, some factory-resetted the laptop, and I loopholed the BIOS password and put Linux on it.
Of course, all to put games on the thing without having to ask for "consent".
masto instance for the tildeverse