@sullybiker holy shit base
is so absurd: https://archlinux.org/packages/core/any/base/
i mean, i understand that the entire point of base
is purely to provide the necessary utilities to install more packages and you're not supposed to actually be using it to do anything else, but you'd think being at least equivalent in utilities to a heavily gutted busybox compile.
@sullybiker the kernel itself is an optional dependency for installing arch wtf
@nytpu Correction manpages are there but no tool to read them lmao
@nytpu In fairness the docs do say you may need other packages, but no manpages? No dhcp client? GIve me a fucking break.
@sullybiker @clacke all install directions tell you to also install base-devel
, but the thing is that it doesn't include man-db
either! maybe they should also recommend posix
just so you at least have a stable posix base even if you do want to stay minimal.
# pacman -Qi man-db
Name : man-db
Version : 2.9.4-1
Description : A utility for reading man pages
Architecture : x86_64
URL : https://www.nongnu.org/man-db/
Licenses : GPL LGPL
Groups : None
Provides : man
Depends On : bash gdbm zlib groff libpipeline less libseccomp
Optional Deps : gzip [installed]
Required By : None
Optional For : None
Conflicts With : man
Replaces : man
Installed Size : 2.26 MiB
Packager : Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org>
Build Date : Tue 09 Feb 2021 06:36:13 AM UTC
Install Date : Tue 23 Feb 2021 05:44:16 AM UTC
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Validated By : Signature
pacman -Qi
Required-By?@clacke @sullybiker pacman is not aware of package groups unless you explicitly look at them (pacman -Si posix
), and no “real” packages require it, so it looks empty.
@nytpu I'm glad it's not just me. I'm helping someone whom I recommended it to and I'm having 2nd thoughts. A lot of this is just silly.